{"id":8122,"date":"2025-11-24T08:52:40","date_gmt":"2025-11-24T07:52:40","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.ucsia.org\/nieuws\/how-the-covid-crisis-changed-the-way-we-think-about-the-future\/"},"modified":"2026-03-19T13:28:10","modified_gmt":"2026-03-19T12:28:10","slug":"how-the-covid-crisis-changed-the-way-we-think-about-the-future","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.ucsia.org\/en\/nieuws\/how-the-covid-crisis-changed-the-way-we-think-about-the-future\/","title":{"rendered":"How the COVID Crisis Changed the Way We Think About the Future"},"content":{"rendered":"\t\t<div data-elementor-type=\"wp-post\" data-elementor-id=\"8122\" class=\"elementor elementor-8122 elementor-7811\" data-elementor-post-type=\"post\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-b127b12 e-flex e-con-boxed e-con e-parent\" data-id=\"b127b12\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\" 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Buzzsprout<\/span>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/span>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/a>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-027892e e-con-full e-flex e-con e-child\" data-id=\"027892e\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-5dcff70 elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"5dcff70\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p>Don\u2019t want to miss a single episode of\u00a0<em>Solidarity Speaks<\/em>?<\/p>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-a72932d elementor-widget elementor-widget-button\" data-id=\"a72932d\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"button.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-button-wrapper\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<a class=\"elementor-button elementor-button-link elementor-size-sm\" href=\"https:\/\/assets-eur.mkt.dynamics.com\/571538dc-b6cf-467c-ac0a-cd8b6d17ebbc\/digitalassets\/standaloneforms\/75494d94-3815-f011-998a-7c1e527146da\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer nofollow\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<span class=\"elementor-button-content-wrapper\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<span class=\"elementor-button-icon\">\n\t\t\t\t<svg aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"e-font-icon-svg e-fas-arrow-right\" viewBox=\"0 0 448 512\" xmlns=\"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg\"><path d=\"M190.5 66.9l22.2-22.2c9.4-9.4 24.6-9.4 33.9 0L441 239c9.4 9.4 9.4 24.6 0 33.9L246.6 467.3c-9.4 9.4-24.6 9.4-33.9 0l-22.2-22.2c-9.5-9.5-9.3-25 .4-34.3L311.4 296H24c-13.3 0-24-10.7-24-24v-32c0-13.3 10.7-24 24-24h287.4L190.9 101.2c-9.8-9.3-10-24.8-.4-34.3z\"><\/path><\/svg>\t\t\t<\/span>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<span class=\"elementor-button-text\">Sign up for the UCSIA Newsletter<\/span>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/span>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/a>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-c309b83 elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"c309b83\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p>Or follow the podcast series on\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/solidariteitspreekt\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer nofollow\">Facebook<\/a>,\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.instagram.com\/solidariteitspreekt\/#\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer nofollow\">Instagram<\/a>, and\/or\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/showcase\/solidariteitspreekt\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer nofollow\">LinkedIn<\/a>.<\/p>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-c524649 e-con-full e-flex e-con e-child\" data-id=\"c524649\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-f70fbb1 elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"f70fbb1\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p>Learn more about&#8230;<\/p>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-f59c17a elementor-widget elementor-widget-button\" data-id=\"f59c17a\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"button.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-button-wrapper\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<a class=\"elementor-button elementor-button-link elementor-size-sm\" href=\"https:\/\/www.ucsia.org\/en\/projects\/the-solidarity-academy\/\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<span class=\"elementor-button-content-wrapper\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<span class=\"elementor-button-icon\">\n\t\t\t\t<svg aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"e-font-icon-svg e-fas-arrow-right\" viewBox=\"0 0 448 512\" xmlns=\"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg\"><path d=\"M190.5 66.9l22.2-22.2c9.4-9.4 24.6-9.4 33.9 0L441 239c9.4 9.4 9.4 24.6 0 33.9L246.6 467.3c-9.4 9.4-24.6 9.4-33.9 0l-22.2-22.2c-9.5-9.5-9.3-25 .4-34.3L311.4 296H24c-13.3 0-24-10.7-24-24v-32c0-13.3 10.7-24 24-24h287.4L190.9 101.2c-9.8-9.3-10-24.8-.4-34.3z\"><\/path><\/svg>\t\t\t<\/span>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<span class=\"elementor-button-text\">the <i>Solidarity Academy<\/i><\/span>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/span>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/a>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-870a5c4 elementor-widget elementor-widget-button\" data-id=\"870a5c4\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"button.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-button-wrapper\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<a class=\"elementor-button elementor-button-link elementor-size-sm\" href=\"https:\/\/www.ucsia.org\/en\/projects\/solidarity-speaks\/\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<span class=\"elementor-button-content-wrapper\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<span class=\"elementor-button-icon\">\n\t\t\t\t<svg aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"e-font-icon-svg e-fas-arrow-right\" viewBox=\"0 0 448 512\" xmlns=\"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg\"><path d=\"M190.5 66.9l22.2-22.2c9.4-9.4 24.6-9.4 33.9 0L441 239c9.4 9.4 9.4 24.6 0 33.9L246.6 467.3c-9.4 9.4-24.6 9.4-33.9 0l-22.2-22.2c-9.5-9.5-9.3-25 .4-34.3L311.4 296H24c-13.3 0-24-10.7-24-24v-32c0-13.3 10.7-24 24-24h287.4L190.9 101.2c-9.8-9.3-10-24.8-.4-34.3z\"><\/path><\/svg>\t\t\t<\/span>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<span class=\"elementor-button-text\"> the podcast<i>Solidarity Speaks<\/i><\/span>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/span>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/a>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-3b9bf670 e-con-full e-flex e-con e-parent\" data-id=\"3b9bf670\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\" data-settings=\"{&quot;background_background&quot;:&quot;classic&quot;}\">\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-4480f60e e-flex e-con-boxed e-con e-child\" data-id=\"4480f60e\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\" data-settings=\"{&quot;background_background&quot;:&quot;gradient&quot;}\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"e-con-inner\">\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-62bf776d e-con-full e-flex e-con e-child\" data-id=\"62bf776d\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\" data-settings=\"{&quot;sticky&quot;:&quot;top&quot;,&quot;sticky_on&quot;:[&quot;desktop&quot;,&quot;tablet&quot;],&quot;sticky_offset&quot;:152,&quot;sticky_parent&quot;:&quot;yes&quot;,&quot;sticky_effects_offset&quot;:0,&quot;sticky_anchor_link_offset&quot;:0}\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-a576b9 elementor-widget elementor-widget-heading\" data-id=\"a576b9\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"heading.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<h2 class=\"elementor-heading-title elementor-size-default\">What preceded: the U-turn series<\/h2>\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-392f5648 elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"392f5648\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p>In 2020 and 2021, UCSIA published two books in which Flemish experts viewed the pandemic as an opportunity for a societal U-turn. Five years later, we ask ourselves: has that turnaround actually happened?<\/p>\n<p>The reality is harsh. Geopolitical conflicts, the climate crisis and the rise of populism have overshadowed the hope for structural change.<\/p>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-3b5c1f90 e-con-full e-flex e-con e-child\" data-id=\"3b5c1f90\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-102cf1f4 elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"102cf1f4\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p><strong>Find out more<\/strong><\/p>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-67182e95 elementor-widget elementor-widget-button\" data-id=\"67182e95\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"button.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-button-wrapper\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<a class=\"elementor-button elementor-button-link elementor-size-sm\" href=\"https:\/\/www.ucsia.org\/en\/projects\/u-turn\/\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<span class=\"elementor-button-content-wrapper\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<span class=\"elementor-button-icon\">\n\t\t\t\t<svg aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"e-font-icon-svg e-fas-arrow-right\" viewBox=\"0 0 448 512\" xmlns=\"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg\"><path d=\"M190.5 66.9l22.2-22.2c9.4-9.4 24.6-9.4 33.9 0L441 239c9.4 9.4 9.4 24.6 0 33.9L246.6 467.3c-9.4 9.4-24.6 9.4-33.9 0l-22.2-22.2c-9.5-9.5-9.3-25 .4-34.3L311.4 296H24c-13.3 0-24-10.7-24-24v-32c0-13.3 10.7-24 24-24h287.4L190.9 101.2c-9.8-9.3-10-24.8-.4-34.3z\"><\/path><\/svg>\t\t\t<\/span>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<span class=\"elementor-button-text\">on the <i>U-turn<\/i><\/span>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/span>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/a>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-3efbd90 elementor-widget elementor-widget-button\" data-id=\"3efbd90\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"button.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-button-wrapper\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<a class=\"elementor-button elementor-button-link elementor-size-sm\" href=\"https:\/\/www.ucsia.org\/en\/projects\/uturn-26\/\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<span class=\"elementor-button-content-wrapper\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<span class=\"elementor-button-icon\">\n\t\t\t\t<svg aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"e-font-icon-svg e-fas-arrow-right\" viewBox=\"0 0 448 512\" xmlns=\"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg\"><path d=\"M190.5 66.9l22.2-22.2c9.4-9.4 24.6-9.4 33.9 0L441 239c9.4 9.4 9.4 24.6 0 33.9L246.6 467.3c-9.4 9.4-24.6 9.4-33.9 0l-22.2-22.2c-9.5-9.5-9.3-25 .4-34.3L311.4 296H24c-13.3 0-24-10.7-24-24v-32c0-13.3 10.7-24 24-24h287.4L190.9 101.2c-9.8-9.3-10-24.8-.4-34.3z\"><\/path><\/svg>\t\t\t<\/span>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<span class=\"elementor-button-text\">on the <i>U-turn: 5 years later<\/i><\/span>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/span>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/a>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-7ef9f67 e-con-full e-flex e-con e-child\" data-id=\"7ef9f67\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-6ca72fd elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"6ca72fd\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p><strong>Listen to the previous episodes of <em data-start=\"38\" data-end=\"57\">Solidarity Speaks<\/em>:<\/strong><\/p>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-35fb91c elementor-widget elementor-widget-button\" data-id=\"35fb91c\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"button.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-button-wrapper\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<a class=\"elementor-button elementor-button-link elementor-size-sm\" href=\"https:\/\/www.ucsia.org\/en\/nieuws\/solidarity-after-covid-19-lessons-inequality-and-international-cooperation\/\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<span class=\"elementor-button-content-wrapper\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<span class=\"elementor-button-icon\">\n\t\t\t\t<svg aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"e-font-icon-svg e-fas-arrow-right\" viewBox=\"0 0 448 512\" xmlns=\"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg\"><path d=\"M190.5 66.9l22.2-22.2c9.4-9.4 24.6-9.4 33.9 0L441 239c9.4 9.4 9.4 24.6 0 33.9L246.6 467.3c-9.4 9.4-24.6 9.4-33.9 0l-22.2-22.2c-9.5-9.5-9.3-25 .4-34.3L311.4 296H24c-13.3 0-24-10.7-24-24v-32c0-13.3 10.7-24 24-24h287.4L190.9 101.2c-9.8-9.3-10-24.8-.4-34.3z\"><\/path><\/svg>\t\t\t<\/span>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<span class=\"elementor-button-text\">episode 1 on solidarity<\/span>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/span>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/a>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-3572a60 elementor-widget elementor-widget-button\" data-id=\"3572a60\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"button.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-button-wrapper\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<a class=\"elementor-button elementor-button-link elementor-size-sm\" href=\"https:\/\/www.ucsia.org\/en\/nieuws\/sustainability-and-social-justice-five-years-after-the-covid-crisis\/\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<span class=\"elementor-button-content-wrapper\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<span class=\"elementor-button-icon\">\n\t\t\t\t<svg aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"e-font-icon-svg e-fas-arrow-right\" viewBox=\"0 0 448 512\" xmlns=\"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg\"><path d=\"M190.5 66.9l22.2-22.2c9.4-9.4 24.6-9.4 33.9 0L441 239c9.4 9.4 9.4 24.6 0 33.9L246.6 467.3c-9.4 9.4-24.6 9.4-33.9 0l-22.2-22.2c-9.5-9.5-9.3-25 .4-34.3L311.4 296H24c-13.3 0-24-10.7-24-24v-32c0-13.3 10.7-24 24-24h287.4L190.9 101.2c-9.8-9.3-10-24.8-.4-34.3z\"><\/path><\/svg>\t\t\t<\/span>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<span class=\"elementor-button-text\">episode 2 on sustainability<\/span>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/span>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/a>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-1a146e9d e-flex e-con-boxed e-con e-child\" data-id=\"1a146e9d\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"e-con-inner\">\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-13558b4c e-con-full e-flex e-con e-child\" data-id=\"13558b4c\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-9749348 elementor-widget elementor-widget-heading\" data-id=\"9749348\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"heading.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<h3 class=\"elementor-heading-title elementor-size-default\">The promise of a U-turn<\/h3>\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-3ae6f211 elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"3ae6f211\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p>When the pandemic broke out in 2020, many quietly hoped that COVID-19 would be a turning point. New forms of solidarity, a reinvented welfare state, perhaps even a change in mentality. But according to Professor De Munck, that optimism was never truly realized.<\/p>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-3aacbdbe elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"3aacbdbe\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p>&#8220;During the pandemic, there were people who truly <strong>hoped for societal change<\/strong>. In my view, that did not happen,&#8221; he says. What did happen, according to him, was that the existing mechanisms of <strong>scenario thinking, preparedness<\/strong>, and the desire to make the future as predictable as possible were only reinforced.<\/p>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-2fbb2918 e-con-full e-flex e-con e-child\" data-id=\"2fbb2918\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-1e73577f elementor-widget elementor-widget-heading\" data-id=\"1e73577f\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"heading.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<h3 class=\"elementor-heading-title elementor-size-default\">A society anticipating disasters<\/h3>\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-381d5dc4 elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"381d5dc4\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p>A central theme is the rise of <strong>scenario thinking<\/strong>, which has largely displaced traditional strategic planning. Whereas strategic policy once started from past trends, today it increasingly works with possible future disasters: pandemics, climate crises, wars, cyberattacks\u2026<\/p>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-a6d8fcd elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"a6d8fcd\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p>Jorgen Stassijns understands that logic: \u201cA scenario offers something to hold on to. It is a framework that creates predictability and a certain sense of security.\u201d Yet he also realizes that scenarios have their limits: how general or how specific should such a script be? And how far ahead can you really see when \u2013 as with COVID-19 \u2013 you barely know what you are dealing with?<\/p>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-e063cfd e-con-full e-flex e-con e-child\" data-id=\"e063cfd\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-1d03afd elementor-blockquote--skin-border elementor-widget elementor-widget-blockquote\" data-id=\"1d03afd\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"blockquote.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<blockquote class=\"elementor-blockquote\">\n\t\t\t<p class=\"elementor-blockquote__content\">\n\t\t\t\t\"Since the pandemic, there has been a growing number of <i>preparedness<\/i> plans. These arise in a climate where we feel that disasters are looming. Not only pandemics, but also the climate crisis and war play a role. This creates a democratic problem, because you end up in a situation where it is easy to say that there is no time for debate, for checks and balances, and for ethical reflection.\"\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"e-q-footer\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<cite class=\"elementor-blockquote__author\">Bert De Munck, historicus Universiteit Antwerpen<\/cite>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/blockquote>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-508454be e-con-full e-flex e-con e-child\" data-id=\"508454be\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-61be9cdd elementor-widget elementor-widget-heading\" data-id=\"61be9cdd\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"heading.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<h3 class=\"elementor-heading-title elementor-size-default\">Democracy under pressure<\/h3>\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-18678bb2 elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"18678bb2\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p>Both national governments and international organizations are now investing heavily in <strong>preparedness<\/strong>. New or revised contingency plans, new structures, reactivated risk procedures.<\/p>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-6bf1ca0 elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"6bf1ca0\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p>But it is precisely there that Professor De Munck sees a danger: the constant climate of urgency in which decisions are made faster than public debate can keep up with.<\/p>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-dca24ad elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"dca24ad\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p>\u201cThat creates a <strong>democratic problem<\/strong>,\u201d he says. \u201cYou end up in a situation where it becomes very easy to say: there is no time now for debate, for checks and balances, and for ethical reflection.\u201d<\/p>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-d8c7148 elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"d8c7148\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p>Jorgen Stassijns adds some nuance: &#8220;When something like this happens, decisions have to be made quickly. What kind of <strong>democratic process<\/strong> can you have <strong>during an outbreak like this<\/strong>? I think that is very difficult.&#8221; We can prepare ourselves for it, though. In fact, that debate is one we should be having now, before the next crisis arises.<\/p>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-62a0ac8 e-con-full e-flex e-con e-child\" data-id=\"62a0ac8\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-37de70d elementor-blockquote--skin-border elementor-widget elementor-widget-blockquote\" data-id=\"37de70d\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"blockquote.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<blockquote class=\"elementor-blockquote\">\n\t\t\t<p class=\"elementor-blockquote__content\">\n\t\t\t\t\u201cWhen something like this happens, decisions have to be made quickly. During a crisis such as COVID, it is very difficult to have an in-depth debate about certain fundamental values. But that is something we must do now. We cannot wait for the next pandemic.\u201d\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"e-q-footer\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<cite class=\"elementor-blockquote__author\">Jorgen Stassijns, crisisco\u00f6rdinator Sciensano<\/cite>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/blockquote>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-24e8cece e-flex e-con-boxed e-con e-parent\" data-id=\"24e8cece\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\" data-settings=\"{&quot;background_background&quot;:&quot;classic&quot;}\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"e-con-inner\">\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-23f84511 e-con-full e-flex e-con e-child\" data-id=\"23f84511\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-3eb373e5 elementor-widget elementor-widget-heading\" data-id=\"3eb373e5\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"heading.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<h2 class=\"elementor-heading-title elementor-size-default\">A technical perspective on a human crisis  <\/h2>\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-86356bc elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"86356bc\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p>Both guests acknowledge that the pandemic was approached primarily as a <strong>technical problem<\/strong>. Virologists, epidemiologists, and medical experts took centre stage, while there was hardly any room for ethical questions\u2014about quality of life, social isolation, or the severity of measures.<\/p>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-1ee214e elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"1ee214e\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p>&#8220;In the background, profound <strong>ethical questions<\/strong> are at play that are not being asked in the meantime,&#8221; says Bert.<\/p>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-68d7902 elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"68d7902\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p>Jorgen acknowledges that the retrospective evaluations were also mainly technical: were the diagnostics effective, were there enough vaccines, did the testing policy work? \u201cBut <strong>did we show enough solidarity<\/strong>, and <strong>did we include the vulnerable groups<\/strong>? That received far less attention.\u201d<\/p>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-6b7d779d e-con-full e-flex e-con e-child\" data-id=\"6b7d779d\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-6aef7a9 elementor-widget elementor-widget-heading\" data-id=\"6aef7a9\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"heading.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<h2 class=\"elementor-heading-title elementor-size-default\">The price of polarization<\/h2>\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-1b7bfb17 elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"1b7bfb17\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p>The pandemic revealed not only policy problems, but also deep fault lines in society. Those who questioned the measures or vaccines quickly felt cornered.<\/p>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-5cdc38d elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"5cdc38d\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p>\u201c<strong>Polarization<\/strong> emerged during the pandemic,\u201d says Bert. \u201cThere was no dialogue between those who disagreed and the groups that did support the policy.\u201d<\/p>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-46fbe58 elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"46fbe58\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p>\u201cThe result, according to him, is a growing resistance to science and government, which is re-emerging in other health issues, such as measles vaccination.\u201d<\/p>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-5b346182 e-flex e-con-boxed e-con e-parent\" data-id=\"5b346182\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"e-con-inner\">\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-35d0c93e e-con-full e-flex e-con e-child\" data-id=\"35d0c93e\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-549017af elementor-widget elementor-widget-heading\" data-id=\"549017af\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"heading.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<h2 class=\"elementor-heading-title elementor-size-default\">Towards a broader perspective on crisis policy<\/h2>\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-5852c6db elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"5852c6db\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p>For Jorgen Stassijns, an important lesson lies in breaking the monoculture of expertise. He advocates advisory bodies in which <strong>different disciplines and sectors<\/strong> are represented: sociologists, psychologists, ethicists, but also people who are close to vulnerable groups.<\/p>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-0a3460f elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"0a3460f\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p>In addition, <strong>clear and empathetic communication<\/strong> is crucial: acknowledging that not everything is certain and that recommendations are sometimes based on incomplete knowledge. When there is uncertainty, it must certainly not be disguised.<\/p>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-df7c2e6 elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"df7c2e6\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p>A final challenge is the <strong>hard\u2011to\u2011reach groups<\/strong>. How do you involve them in your preparation?<\/p>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-4ecf1884 e-con-full e-flex e-con e-child\" data-id=\"4ecf1884\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-dd2870e elementor-widget elementor-widget-heading\" data-id=\"dd2870e\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"heading.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<h2 class=\"elementor-heading-title elementor-size-default\">A future with more dialogue than control? <\/h2>\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-5b0e93c elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"5b0e93c\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p>Bert De Munck warns against a society that increasingly relies on <strong>technocratic solutions<\/strong> and <strong>surveillance systems<\/strong>. According to him, it is essential that policy continues to allow for alternative perspectives, and that there remains space for <strong>dissenting voices<\/strong> without immediately dismissing them as irrational or dangerous.<\/p>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-5c942b8 elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"5c942b8\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p>Because a society that cannot tolerate plurality will, in the long run, lose not only trust but also resilience.<\/p>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-20ae2818 e-flex e-con-boxed e-con e-parent\" data-id=\"20ae2818\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\" data-settings=\"{&quot;background_background&quot;:&quot;classic&quot;}\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"e-con-inner\">\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-65c81e82 e-con-full e-flex e-con e-child\" data-id=\"65c81e82\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-60451ce elementor-blockquote--skin-border elementor-widget elementor-widget-blockquote\" data-id=\"60451ce\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"blockquote.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<blockquote class=\"elementor-blockquote\">\n\t\t\t<p class=\"elementor-blockquote__content\">\n\t\t\t\t\"What do we consider a successful approach to a pandemic? Is it having as few deaths as possible, as few people falling ill? Or ensuring that society keeps functioning? Or that people's well-being is respected? Experts also differ on these questions. A virologist will say: as little virus as possible. A sociologist will say: as much well-being as possible. There is no consensus on how to assess whether we have handled COVID well.\"\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"e-q-footer\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<cite class=\"elementor-blockquote__author\">Jorgen Stassijns, Sciensano<\/cite>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/blockquote>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-498bc4b0 e-flex e-con-boxed e-con e-parent\" data-id=\"498bc4b0\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\" data-settings=\"{&quot;background_background&quot;:&quot;classic&quot;}\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"e-con-inner\">\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-e04ed34 e-con-full e-flex e-con e-child\" data-id=\"e04ed34\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-55aa78b7 elementor-widget elementor-widget-heading\" data-id=\"55aa78b7\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"heading.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<h2 class=\"elementor-heading-title elementor-size-default\">What have we learned?<\/h2>\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-5ad92ec7 elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"5ad92ec7\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p>The conversation ends without simple answers, but with a clear direction: anyone wishing to prepare for the future must look beyond models, figures, and measures.<\/p>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-00860f6 elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"00860f6\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p>The greatest challenge may not be the next pandemic, but the way in which we, as a <strong>society<\/strong>, learn to <strong>deal with uncertainty, differences of opinion, and fundamental values<\/strong>.<\/p>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-863029a e-con-full e-flex e-con e-child\" data-id=\"863029a\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-8f28da5 elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"8f28da5\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p>Sign up for our newsletter and stay up to date on new episodes and events!<\/p>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div 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0l-22.2-22.2c-9.5-9.5-9.3-25 .4-34.3L311.4 296H24c-13.3 0-24-10.7-24-24v-32c0-13.3 10.7-24 24-24h287.4L190.9 101.2c-9.8-9.3-10-24.8-.4-34.3z\"><\/path><\/svg>\t\t\t<\/span>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<span class=\"elementor-button-text\">Sign up for the UCSIA Newsletter<\/span>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/span>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/a>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-19d053e e-con-full e-flex e-con e-child\" data-id=\"19d053e\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-59f2c2a elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"59f2c2a\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p>Listen to the previous episodes of <em data-start=\"38\" data-end=\"57\">Solidarity Speaks<\/em>:<\/p>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-3641b3e elementor-widget elementor-widget-button\" data-id=\"3641b3e\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"button.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-button-wrapper\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<a class=\"elementor-button elementor-button-link elementor-size-sm\" href=\"https:\/\/www.ucsia.org\/en\/nieuws\/solidarity-after-covid-19-lessons-inequality-and-international-cooperation\/\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<span class=\"elementor-button-content-wrapper\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<span class=\"elementor-button-icon\">\n\t\t\t\t<svg aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"e-font-icon-svg e-fas-arrow-right\" viewBox=\"0 0 448 512\" xmlns=\"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg\"><path d=\"M190.5 66.9l22.2-22.2c9.4-9.4 24.6-9.4 33.9 0L441 239c9.4 9.4 9.4 24.6 0 33.9L246.6 467.3c-9.4 9.4-24.6 9.4-33.9 0l-22.2-22.2c-9.5-9.5-9.3-25 .4-34.3L311.4 296H24c-13.3 0-24-10.7-24-24v-32c0-13.3 10.7-24 24-24h287.4L190.9 101.2c-9.8-9.3-10-24.8-.4-34.3z\"><\/path><\/svg>\t\t\t<\/span>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<span class=\"elementor-button-text\">episode 1 on solidarity<\/span>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/span>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/a>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-7496f26 elementor-widget elementor-widget-button\" data-id=\"7496f26\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"button.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-button-wrapper\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<a class=\"elementor-button elementor-button-link elementor-size-sm\" href=\"https:\/\/www.ucsia.org\/en\/nieuws\/sustainability-and-social-justice-five-years-after-the-covid-crisis\/\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<span class=\"elementor-button-content-wrapper\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<span class=\"elementor-button-icon\">\n\t\t\t\t<svg aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"e-font-icon-svg e-fas-arrow-right\" viewBox=\"0 0 448 512\" xmlns=\"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg\"><path d=\"M190.5 66.9l22.2-22.2c9.4-9.4 24.6-9.4 33.9 0L441 239c9.4 9.4 9.4 24.6 0 33.9L246.6 467.3c-9.4 9.4-24.6 9.4-33.9 0l-22.2-22.2c-9.5-9.5-9.3-25 .4-34.3L311.4 296H24c-13.3 0-24-10.7-24-24v-32c0-13.3 10.7-24 24-24h287.4L190.9 101.2c-9.8-9.3-10-24.8-.4-34.3z\"><\/path><\/svg>\t\t\t<\/span>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<span class=\"elementor-button-text\">episode 2 on sustainability<\/span>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/span>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/a>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-1010d9bb e-con-full e-flex e-con e-child\" data-id=\"1010d9bb\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-1699a3bb elementor-widget elementor-widget-heading\" data-id=\"1699a3bb\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"heading.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<h2 class=\"elementor-heading-title elementor-size-default\">What does the future hold?<\/h2>\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-5814c7d5 elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"5814c7d5\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p>In the spring of 2026, UCSIA will organize the lecture series\u00a0<em>U-Turn: 5 years later<\/em>, in which we take stock:\u00a0<strong>has the pandemic truly changed us?<\/strong><\/p>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-0c12a6c elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"0c12a6c\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p>Topics such as loneliness, addiction, citizens\u2019 initiatives, and authoritarian leaders are addressed. We continue to search for hopeful perspectives in a world full of challenges.<\/p>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-d15e48e e-con-full e-flex e-con e-child\" data-id=\"d15e48e\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-2d4c1ba elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"2d4c1ba\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p>Want to know more about\u00a0<em>U-turn: 5 years later<\/em>?<\/p>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-68cb2f3 elementor-widget elementor-widget-button\" data-id=\"68cb2f3\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"button.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div 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elementor-size-default\">Colophon<\/h3>\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-7a6449d7 elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"7a6449d7\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-63531c4 elementor-widget elementor-widget-heading\" data-id=\"63531c4\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"heading.default\">\n<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n<p class=\"elementor-heading-title elementor-size-default\">Host: Linda De Win<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<p>Guests: Bert De Munck (University of Antwerp) and Jorgen Stassijns (Sciensano)<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<p><\/p>\n<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-7a6449d7 elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"7a6449d7\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n<p>Editors: Kaat Somers and Erik De Bom<\/p>\n<p>Production: Kaat Somers and Marijke Celis<\/p>\n<p>Communication: Marijke Celis<\/p>\n<p>Editing and mixing:\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/avinspire.be\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer nofollow\">AV Inspire<\/a><\/p>\n<p>Music:\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.giuseppeminervini.be\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer nofollow\">Giuseppe Minervini<\/a><\/p>\n<p>Voice intro &amp; outro: Gilke Gunst<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<p><\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-d60b8cd e-flex e-con-boxed e-con e-child\" data-id=\"d60b8cd\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"e-con-inner\">\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-288f7ace e-con-full e-flex e-con e-child\" data-id=\"288f7ace\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-fd6d91f elementor-widget elementor-widget-image\" data-id=\"fd6d91f\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"image.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<img decoding=\"async\" width=\"150\" height=\"150\" src=\"https:\/\/www.ucsia.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/Solidariteit-Spreekt-001-3-Linda-De-Win-portret-website-150x150.png\" class=\"attachment-thumbnail size-thumbnail wp-image-6891\" alt=\"Profile picture Linda De Win\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.ucsia.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/Solidariteit-Spreekt-001-3-Linda-De-Win-portret-website-150x150.png 150w, https:\/\/www.ucsia.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/Solidariteit-Spreekt-001-3-Linda-De-Win-portret-website-300x300.png 300w, https:\/\/www.ucsia.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/Solidariteit-Spreekt-001-3-Linda-De-Win-portret-website.png 500w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 150px) 100vw, 150px\" \/>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-37e05840 elementor-widget elementor-widget-heading\" data-id=\"37e05840\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"heading.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<h3 class=\"elementor-heading-title elementor-size-default\">Linda De Win<\/h3>\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-37de8397 elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"37de8397\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p><strong>Linda De Win<\/strong> is a journalist. She worked for over 30 years at the VRT news service, where she specialized in reporting on domestic politics. She worked for <em>Het journaal<\/em>, <em>Terzake<\/em>, and <em>De zevende dag<\/em>. From 2006 to 2021, she hosted the parliamentary programme <em>Villa Politica<\/em>.<\/p>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-706dfda1 elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"706dfda1\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p>By training, she is historian. She completed her bachelor\u2019s degree at UFSIA and her master\u2019s degree (specializing in contemporary history) at Ghent University. She is passionate not only about her field of study, but also about everything happening in society. She currently works as a journalist, podcast host, and moderator.<\/p>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-2ebc4713 e-con-full e-flex e-con e-child\" data-id=\"2ebc4713\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-93c2787 elementor-widget elementor-widget-image\" data-id=\"93c2787\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"image.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<img decoding=\"async\" width=\"150\" height=\"150\" src=\"https:\/\/www.ucsia.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/11\/Solidariteit-Spreekt-003-2-Bert-De-Munck-portret-website-150x150.png\" class=\"attachment-thumbnail size-thumbnail wp-image-7837\" alt=\"Bert De Munck\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.ucsia.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/11\/Solidariteit-Spreekt-003-2-Bert-De-Munck-portret-website-150x150.png 150w, https:\/\/www.ucsia.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/11\/Solidariteit-Spreekt-003-2-Bert-De-Munck-portret-website-300x300.png 300w, https:\/\/www.ucsia.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/11\/Solidariteit-Spreekt-003-2-Bert-De-Munck-portret-website.png 500w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 150px) 100vw, 150px\" \/>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-eb63d05 elementor-widget elementor-widget-heading\" data-id=\"eb63d05\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"heading.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<h3 class=\"elementor-heading-title elementor-size-default\">Bert De Munck<\/h3>\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-7863a588 elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"7863a588\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p><strong>Bert De Munck<\/strong> is full professor in the Department of History at the University of Antwerp. He teaches, among other subjects, <em>Early Modern History<\/em>, <em>Theory of Historical Knowledge<\/em>, and <em>History of Science and Society<\/em>. He is a member of the Centre for Urban History and the Urban Studies Institute.<\/p>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-13dc8d0 elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"13dc8d0\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p>His research lies at the intersection of social history and the history of religion, science, and knowledge. More specifically, he focuses on the valuation of knowledge and skills, the role of knowledge and worldviews in governance and political thought, and epistemological developments within historical research in general.<\/p>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-63122fe elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"63122fe\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p>He recently published the book <em data-start=\"85\" data-end=\"165\">How the World Turned into a Laboratory: The Long Road to the COVID-19 Pandemic<\/em> (Ethics Press, 2025).<\/p>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-9a94eae e-con-full e-flex e-con e-child\" data-id=\"9a94eae\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-9441349 elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"9441349\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p><strong>Learn more about&#8230;<\/strong><\/p>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-f003db0 elementor-widget elementor-widget-button\" data-id=\"f003db0\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"button.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-button-wrapper\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<a class=\"elementor-button elementor-button-link elementor-size-sm\" href=\"https:\/\/www.uantwerpen.be\/nl\/personeel\/bert-demunck\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer nofollow\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<span class=\"elementor-button-content-wrapper\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<span class=\"elementor-button-icon\">\n\t\t\t\t<svg xmlns=\"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg\" fill=\"currentColor\" viewBox=\"0 0 14 14\"><path d=\"m5.652 12.293 1.414 1.414L13.773 7 7.066.293 5.652 1.707 9.945 6H.359v2h9.586l-4.293 4.293Z\"><\/path><\/svg>\t\t\t<\/span>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<span class=\"elementor-button-text\">the research of Bert De Munck<\/span>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/span>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/a>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-6e1b751 elementor-widget elementor-widget-button\" data-id=\"6e1b751\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"button.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-button-wrapper\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<a class=\"elementor-button elementor-button-link elementor-size-sm\" href=\"https:\/\/ethicspress.com\/products\/how-the-world-turned-into-a-laboratory\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer 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href=\"https:\/\/youtu.be\/Q2eLWiZPn_A?si=wEfRfHRJDNRBGRpi\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer nofollow\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<span class=\"elementor-button-content-wrapper\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<span class=\"elementor-button-icon\">\n\t\t\t\t<svg xmlns=\"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg\" fill=\"currentColor\" viewBox=\"0 0 14 14\"><path d=\"m5.652 12.293 1.414 1.414L13.773 7 7.066.293 5.652 1.707 9.945 6H.359v2h9.586l-4.293 4.293Z\"><\/path><\/svg>\t\t\t<\/span>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<span class=\"elementor-button-text\">the U-turn lecture <i>The future is not a blank page<\/i><\/span>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/span>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/a>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-5f47674d e-con-full e-flex e-con e-child\" data-id=\"5f47674d\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-cce55f9 elementor-widget elementor-widget-image\" data-id=\"cce55f9\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"image.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<img decoding=\"async\" width=\"150\" height=\"150\" src=\"https:\/\/www.ucsia.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/11\/Solidariteit-Spreekt-003-4-Jorgen-Stassijns-portret-website-150x150.png\" class=\"attachment-thumbnail size-thumbnail wp-image-7842\" alt=\"Jorgen Stassijns\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.ucsia.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/11\/Solidariteit-Spreekt-003-4-Jorgen-Stassijns-portret-website-150x150.png 150w, https:\/\/www.ucsia.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/11\/Solidariteit-Spreekt-003-4-Jorgen-Stassijns-portret-website-300x300.png 300w, https:\/\/www.ucsia.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/11\/Solidariteit-Spreekt-003-4-Jorgen-Stassijns-portret-website.png 500w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 150px) 100vw, 150px\" \/>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-36639d2f elementor-widget elementor-widget-heading\" data-id=\"36639d2f\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"heading.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<h3 class=\"elementor-heading-title elementor-size-default\">Jorgen Stassijns<\/h3>\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-32be3270 elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"32be3270\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p><strong>Jorgen Stassijns<\/strong> is a physician, specialized in <strong>tropical medicine and public health<\/strong>. Since 1998, he has worked for <strong>M\u00e9decins Sans Fronti\u00e8res<\/strong> (MSF) in <strong>humanitarian crises<\/strong> in, among others, South Sudan, Kenya, Guinea, Siberia, Sierra Leone, and Belgium. Between 2010 and 2016, he was MSF\u2019s malaria expert, and afterwards he specialized in antimicrobial resistance at the Institute of Tropical Medicine and with MSF.<\/p>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-5a2a426 elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"5a2a426\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p>Since 2022, he has been working as a <strong>crisis coordinator<\/strong> at <strong>Sciensano<\/strong>, the national institute for public health, where he was closely involved in managing the COVID-19 pandemic. 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